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A Declining Democracy's avatar

Yeah, my eyes went immediately to Stacey Abrams on that list and I verified it was the same Stacey Abrams who, supposedly, is a staunch defender of voting rights and a progressive voice. Now I'm not so sure. Perhaps her presence was more of "if you're not at the table, you're on the menu" intention. Or, like many people in the Democratic party, she has decided prominence in the party is more important than fighting for constituents. Who knows? But it is, indeed, really odd.

Jessica Hall's avatar

Yes, disappointing.

Also, George Lucas and Melody Hobson (his wife, a businesswoman/executive) were listed as funders, with her on the Board. Also odd and disappointing, more out of sentimentality for the original Star Wars and what you think it is signaling about the man who created the story, and his world of people. Newsflash: the world Palantir is building has more in common with Darth Vader than Luke & Leia.

Paulo Kirk's avatar

In 2011, she traveled to Israel through the American Jewish Committee's Project Interchange. She explicitly supports Israel's right to exist and has publicly condemned the global Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement. However, as a legislator, she voted against state-level anti-BDS bills, stating that she wanted to protect the constitutional right to free speech and historical political boycotts.

Ahh, the other Abrams . . . The Jewish one: Elliot Abrams is a prominent American neoconservative foreign policy expert and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who has spent decades advocating for an exceptionally strong and unbreakable U.S.-Israel alliance

Under The Fainting Couch's avatar

It would be more accurate to say “pro-Israel/fascism Jewish” re. Elliot Abrams and not tar “Jewish” with the same brush to prevent misunderstanding. Thank you kindly.

Paulo Kirk's avatar

Well, interesting comments here:

https://youtu.be/KHgH8AWUdWQ?si=aJwkVaISs_5xF58n

In one of Deep Dive Perspective's most debated episodes, three voices

with sharply different analyses of the Palestine solidarity movement

sit together to interrogate a central strategic question: is

"anti-Zionism" — as a framing, a movement, and a political

identity — sufficient to address what is happening to the Palestinian

people? Gilad Atzmon argues that the movement has been structurally

constrained by its own refusal to examine harder questions about the

nature of the state it opposes — a position he roots in his reading of

Israeli self-definition. Rabbi Beck of Neturei Karta argues that the

most effective anti-Zionist work happens within Jewish communities,

separating Jewish identity from Zionist ideology and demonstrating

that opposition to Zionism is consistent with Jewish religious

tradition. Laith Marouf offers a third position: that the moment for

public-facing Jewish anti-Zionism has passed, and what is now required

is a direct confrontation with Zionist control of Jewish institutions

from within. These are the guests' own analytical frameworks, presented

here for debate and critical scrutiny.

+--+

Misunderstanding? Which Judaism are you confused about? The Jewish State of Israel? It's not the Zionist State of Israel.

Check out Klanada:

This is our third interview with the meticulous and exacting Dr. Miles Howe. His work on Zeyeonist philanthropy in Canada is invaluable. He was also an integral part of the CBC's The Fifth Estate segment on the Jewish National Fund and the Canada Revenue Agency revoking their charitable status in Canada. In 2024 alone, more than 664 million dollars was sent to Israel through more than a dozen federations functioning in Canada.

https://youtu.be/k7U5tr7x0ng?si=NytXFysokg_aTta-

https://paulokirk.substack.com/p/belgium-does-donald-trump-dance-goal

Karen Frickenhaus's avatar

The network of arms and power brokers inherited by Epstein from Ghislaine’s daddy is being curated and carried forward by Thiel. Thanks to intrepid reporters like Carole Cadwalladr for connecting dots and letting in some sunlight. The reign of death and destruction promoted by these evil masterminds need exposure and mass resistance.

Streams of Glass's avatar

This is the propaganda of people like Whitney Webb. By this logic you can connect any military contractors and actors in the espionage business right to the ancient Egyptians. Epstein belonged more to the days of human-based intelligence assets. Old military contractors didn't need an Epstein. Like things that go out of date, such old networks have become more incompetent and rotten. Thiel is the embodiment of the tech world and the fusion of new espionage and new military, both tech-based. Look at what is happening to the CIA and the FBI and all of them and you understand what I mean. No all-powerful, ever evolving network will cut their own number and budget. In fact, they exist in a state of tension with the new, more competent (but even more lacking in democratic ideals) private apparatus represented by Thiel, who has spurred "his" politicians like Vance against them for years. Palantir is no heir of Total Information Awareness or PROMIS. TIA and PROMIS are both centralized databases, in the Chinese fashion. If this could produce a Palantir, China and even Russia would have their own much sooner than the US. Palantir is an integration layer, an orchestrator that helps to pull out what the user wants from different, decentralized databases. It is not because they care about your democracy. It is because like Thiel said, big data is dumb data. This makes the decision making process quicker and clearer, needing less hardware and processing capability. They do not need to know which kind of meal Putin is going to eat today to help to select the route of the drones that will fly to Moscow.

As for Thiel and Epstein's relationship, you can take a look at my post

https://2203459.substack.com/p/the-right-wing-antichrist-the-sex

Bill Huber's avatar

Peter Theil seems to have his fingers in many pies with Palantir. They include surveillance, defense, autonomous weapons healthcare, and AI.

The proposed merger of the US Department of Defense with Israeli Defense Forces smacks of Theil, don't you think?

Sue Cullinan's avatar

Well done Carole

Maz's avatar

Gobsmacked! But hardly surprised at the same time. Thiel has stepped into Robert Maxwell / Jeffrey Epstein shoes - and our government has handed him a peach. We are such suckers! It’s all so horrifying and clearly shows that no government works for its people. Thanks for joining some of the dots, Carole. Great research.

Bill Huber's avatar

Thiel is more of a capo, Jared Kushner is the JE/Maxwell operative I think.

He's the linchpin in bed with Netanyahu and MBS,IMHO.

Maz's avatar

Yeah, you’re right.

Streams of Glass's avatar

Israel is the US's proxy against Iran and CRINK's influence in the region. But Thiel's investments in Israeli defense tech are very recent, although he appreciates the Israeli mentality and their acuteness in war. His native Germany has always been his other center (bigger, having the industrial muscles, and providing his network's higher echelons with new blood), but it has also become harder to penetrate directly, so Israel and the UK act as gateways for that too. Israel is becoming worried with the way he captures defense tech talent too. He has been helping them building all their hottest new defense startups - Kela (built with Palantir personnel), Covenant (CEO from Palantir, about to expand in UK and Germany), Traysar (The Boring company personnel) but then he keeps them all in his system, aka Founders Fund, Anduril and the whole American bunch (a16z, Lux, Sequoia). Israeli funds hardly get a place at the table at all:

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-new-fund-to-invest-in-young-israeli-defense-tech-cos-1001547158

Anduril has just tried to acquire Kela too:

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-4-kela-technologies-an-integrated-defense-platform-1001545976

And Israeli companies who partner with his "big ones" sometimes receive a kick in the face like this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sneaked-huge-gift-peter-203954409.html

Sue Heath's avatar

We must disconnect from Palantir. Will Burnham do it?

Catherine Beck's avatar

This info may spoil my lunch.

That said, KUDOS to you for reporting on a body that is so stinky. To me, everything about Thiel is stinky.

I wonder if Bilderberg's directors, funders and invitees overlap with other esteemed bodies, like The Trilateral Commission, Davos, and others?

Would you say Bilderberg's topics are more tech focussed than other talk-and-influence shops?

Lynn's avatar

Bilderberg? As in the Illuminati stories?

Melanie Scott's avatar

Thank you so much Carole for the amazing work you do - your refusal to be suborned, your tenacity and your courage. I imagine you have a trusted team of colleagues to work with. I note that there are quite a few German figures who feature in the Bilderberg story. Is it time for a concerted cooperative investigation by you and other journalists around the world, along the lines of the Panama Papers Cambridge Analytica projects?

jame5_wh1te's avatar

Essential reading as always

Sorry to be the pedant (and I'd always used the plural myself until I looked it up), but it's the Chatham House rule, rather than rules:

"When a meeting, or part thereof, is held under the Chatham House Rule, participants are free to use the information received, but neither the identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other participant, may be revealed."

I have to use it a lot as a union rep, and sometimes have the actual Chatham House as a Teams background

Bill Huber's avatar

My guess is that the Epstein Class is anticipating a general revolt. They have money, power, vast amounts of information on all of us via doge, CIA, NSA, and everybody else's 3-letter agencies. Not to mention the "Defense" forces available in case of "emergencies", (see:NSPM-7) to quell an Insurrection.

The Lizard People rule!

Christopher FOWLER's avatar

So lots of peak season accommodation currently available at Powerscourt Hotel & Spa in County Wicklow then!

Michael Rana's avatar

In summary: Just about every politician and executive of today’s tech companies are as corrupt as they come.

Doingud's avatar

Thank you Carole ✨💕, another excellent article. I understand more deeply now how Palantir's tendrils have coiled so tightly around UK infrastructure ... government stealth moves and the immoral support of what Israel is doing. Sickening!

Karen Wilkes's avatar

Oh Carole Thank you so much for showing us what Bilderberg is all about. They are such a vital group to expose. Let’s hope other Journalists pick this up and show the world what Bilderberg is. A very dangerous group of people who are quite powerful in the world and getting more so.

nosey parker's avatar

Reference David A. Hughes' "Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State". Required reading, though I don't have a copy yet. David Hughes discusses it in depth in four parts on his substack.

Under The Fainting Couch's avatar

I don’t know if this is related but I imagine so - Rachel Maddow’s podcast on the long rise of fascism in the US.

B Insull's avatar

Thank you Carole for your reporting and investigating. Very relevant to us New Zealanders whose country has been colonised by Peter Thiel.